MIRKO BORSCHE

Founder Bureau Borsche

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On The Art of Letting Go, Embracing Change and Making Meaningful Work

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Mirko Borsche is the founder and creative director of Bureau Borsche, one of Europe’s most influential design studios. Based in Munich, his work has shaped global visual culture across fashion, sport, and media — from rebranding Inter Milan to designing for Supreme, Balenciaga, Nike, and Zeit Magazine. Beginning in graffiti and moving through advertising, Mirko built a practice defined by collaboration, experimentation, and trust, where discipline and freedom constantly challenge each other to create work that lasts.

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In this conversation, Mirko speaks about resilience, insecurity, and the role of trust in creative work. He reflects on how graffiti shaped his early mindset, why he hates brainstorms, and how discipline and chaos coexist inside his studio. We discuss his time in advertising, his love of football culture, and how design can serve as both work and worldview. A story about building culture through clarity, conviction, and belief — and about the beauty that can emerge when you stop chasing perfection and start embracing imperfection.

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WHY I ASKED THIS GUEST

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Today I'm joined by Peter Adolf, a visionary garden designer whose work has transformed how we experience landscapes known for projects like a eyeliner in New York and Ry Garden in Chicago. Peter spent decades redefining the relationship between plant spaces and emotion.
In this episode, we dive into his early challenges and creative breakthroughs. He shares how taking risks shape his craftsmanship career, and what the vital role is of intuition in great design.

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DO OR DIE / A OR B

Are you more rational or emotional? 
Piet: Both. 

Practical or romantic? 
Both. 

Structure or color, both controlled the narrative or let the garden tell its own story?
A little bit of both. 

Cherish the process or cherish the result. 
Result and process. 

Your work primarily recognized for its ecological impact or its aesthetic beauty. 
Both. 

Design one final, groundbreaking garden or curate and refine all your previous works?
I would like to have a new project and I think the gardeners that don't work well or refine my own gardens will take a lifetime again to get them where they were. 'cause gardeners have their own life, and also they need to have their own life to change the right way for the legacy. 

The gardens will be taken care of, the gardeners. And is there a wish from you that it's maintained the same way or just let it go? 
Let it grow into the future. I would say so. Let it grow by the good hands of bareness and into something that still is good and especially beautiful because you can imagine and trees grow up with the plants underneath, don't like it that or and years. So you have to change your plans. And if I look back to all the plants of what I've done and no garden looks the same anymore, and you can just rip it out and put it all over from your original design. So that's it.

Focus on mentoring young designers or document your life's work? 
Both. 

Your gardens and your true maintenance or wild and natural growth?
Wild and natural growth doesn't exist because then our garden ends up in metals and BLEs. So, it's always gardens, our gardens and garden. I'll say it's a place where you feel good in and it's extruded from nature, a place for yourself. So you have to treat it, you know, like, you treat yourself and in the best way. So environmentally, right, ecologically, right. And that just wildlife allowed, I see that in that sense. So it's not, Corning is about control. You cannot let it go.

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WILLEM DE KAM

Photographer

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On Human Behaviour, Football Culture, and Finding Freedom Behind the Lens

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Willem de Kam is a Rotterdam-based photographer whose work sits between observation and participation. Trained in graphic design, he found freedom behind the lens — documenting human behavior in everyday rituals, from concert halls to city streets to football terraces. Known for his long-form study of Feyenoord culture, Willem photographs from the inside out, balancing empathy with distance. His images, books, and commissions explore identity, belonging, and the subtle choreography between chaos and control.

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In this conversation, Willem talks about finding his medium, learning to see what’s already there, and why empathy matters more than access. He traces a path from low-light punk shows to documenting away days, explains how crowds shape identity, and why he prefers poetry over spectacle — the moments between goals. We discuss publishing as preservation in a scrolling world, working safely inside ultra communities, and the discipline of staying flexible. A story about patience, permission, and photographing people as individuals rather than a mass.

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MIRKO BORSCHE

Founder Bureau Borsche

INSTAGRAM

On The Art of Letting Go, Embracing Change and Making Meaningful Work

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Mirko Borsche is the founder and creative director of Bureau Borsche, one of Europe’s most influential design studios. Based in Munich, his work has shaped global visual culture across fashion, sport, and media — from rebranding Inter Milan to designing for Supreme, Balenciaga, Nike, and Zeit Magazine. Beginning in graffiti and moving through advertising, Mirko built a practice defined by collaboration, experimentation, and trust, where discipline and freedom constantly challenge each other to create work that lasts.

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In this conversation, Mirko speaks about resilience, insecurity, and the role of trust in creative work. He reflects on how graffiti shaped his early mindset, why he hates brainstorms, and how discipline and chaos coexist inside his studio. We discuss his time in advertising, his love of football culture, and how design can serve as both work and worldview. A story about building culture through clarity, conviction, and belief — and about the beauty that can emerge when you stop chasing perfection and start embracing imperfection.

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THOMAS SUBREVILLE

Director ILL-STUDIO

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On Freedom, Fiction, and the Discipline to Think for Yourself

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Thomas Subreville is director of ILL-STUDIO, a post-disciplinary practice based in Paris working between art, architecture, and fashion. Over the past two decades, he has collaborated with global brands such as Louis Vuitton, Chanel, Nike, and Mercedes-Benz, shaping the cultural codes of contemporary design. Rooted in research, narrative, and experimentation, Thomas explores how perception, fiction, and freedom intersect — creating work that blurs the boundaries between disciplines, industries, and ways of thinking.

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In this conversation, Thomas speaks about unlearning conventions, valuing time over deliverables, and building a studio that thinks as much as it creates. He reflects on freedom as a form of discipline, the need for chaos within structure, and the importance of curiosity as a lifelong skill. We discuss his early years in magazines and skate culture, his project on neurodivergence, and how running and travel fuel his creative process. A dialogue about independence, attention, and the courage to think for yourself — and how fiction, in the end, can often reveal more truth than function.